Gay CONSERVATIVES are “Self-Hating?” How Delusional are Our Critics?

La-la-la...I can't HEAR you!

Enough, already, with the nonsense on stilts that gay conservatives are “self-hating.”  I’ve heard plenty of that crapola.  More than I can stand.

What gay liberals refuse to consider — because it does not flatter them — is that conservative gays make the choices we do, just as everyone else does, in what we perceive to be our own best interests.  The reason the gay lib hivemind discounts this is that they obviously don’t feel they have a strong enough case to debate us.  The only way to avoid a debate is to pretend there’s no other choice but the one they want.

But let’s look at a very important consideration.  At least, one that should be considered important.  What do our enemies want us to do?

Our enemies — those who truly do hate gays and wish us harm — want us to do what does no good in helping us.  They want us to spin our wheels until we’re mired in the mud of inaction and ineffectiveness.  They do NOT want us to do what really works to move us forward.

If gays who joined the Christian Church, or the Republican Party, were truly self-hating, then our enemies would be welcoming us into these institutions with loud hosannas and resounding joy.  They would be elated to see us there, and do all they could to make us comfortable there.

And they do that, right? Right?

Crickets from the gay libs in response.  And that’s because the people who hate gays also hate it when we remain Christians, or become Republicans, or identify, in any sense, as conservatives.  It drives them nuts.  They have made clear, from their spluttering, fuming and rage, that it’s the very last thing they want us to do.

Why? Because we’re refusing to concede them any territory they can safely and smugly call their own.  We’re fighting them on “their own” turf, and over every blade of grass.  We are keeping them from any longer being able to claim, as their own private bailiwick, territory that is our birthright every bit as much as it is theirs.

They don’t care if we’re liberal, or Democrats, or atheists.  As a matter of fact, they want us to be.  They want it SO much that they must desperately pretend we are, and portray us as such, even when we aren’t.

The truly pathetic people are those gays who congratulate themselves on what warriors they are — what rebels! — striking blows against the enemy.  That is the most delusional fantasy I have ever heard.  What they are doing is just exactly, to the letter, what our enemies want them to do.  They are playing directly into our would-be destroyers’ hands.

As a gay Christian and gay libertarian conservative, I encounter proof of this almost daily.  I’m a part of the vanguard of those who are truly driving our enemies nuts.  And I’m damned proud of it.

When I encounter gay liberal self-haters, I can only laugh.


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10 Responses to Gay CONSERVATIVES are “Self-Hating?” How Delusional are Our Critics?

  1. Houndentenor says:

    That makes no sense.

    You actively support people who do not believe you are entitled to equal protection under the law.

    I understand that you can agree with people on some issues but not others. But some of us draw the line at being treated as second class citizens.

    Also, some Christian denominations welcome gay and lesbian people. As I am constantly reminded, it is not fair to lump all Christians together and assume that they are all Fundamentalists. That’s just not the case.

    I hear all the time from people who tell me that they are Republicans but they disagree with the party on gay rights. What I don’t understand is why they are telling me that and not the GOP leadership.

    • Rattlesnake says:

      “You actively support people who do not believe you are entitled to equal protection under the law.”

      That is false. Most conservatives really don’t care, and most certainly don’t advocate unequal protection under the law for homosexuals.

      “I understand that you can agree with people on some issues but not others. But some of us draw the line at being treated as second class citizens.”

      Who is treating homosexuals as second class citizens?

  2. Lori Heine says:

    Yes, Houndentenor, I’m an Episcopalian, so I’m very happily aware there are denominations that welcome us. And even among Catholics and Evangelicals, many of the people in the pews have no problem wit us. But the leaders in the Catholic Church, and in Evangelicalism, mainly still do — and much of the media treats them as if they are “the” voice of Christianity.

    I’m not a Republican; I’m a member of the Libertarian Party. But if I join the GOP, I will definitely be one of the people who does tell the party leadership it needs to evolve on gay issues.

    I do not “actively support” people who do not believe we deserve equal treatment under the law. Because I work for many of the same causes, I’m able to get right in their faces and challenge them. I’ve never had any problem doing that. And yes, I stand by my claim that most of them would be more comfortable if I were elsewhere — preferrably, it seems, in some liberal bubble so they could stereotype me.

    I’m glad you stopped by my blog. You’re welcome anytime.

  3. Tim Mc says:

    Lori, while in general I agree with your logic, the problem is that i have met and talked extensively with self hating gays, and even exhibited classic symptoms, such as working harder to appear straight, being ashamed that I was gay, condemning others for acting to flamboyant. I didn’t care that those I voted for were bashing gays because I thought that gays deserved for being to vocal.

    It’s all well and good to say that you are not in the ranks of the self hating but there are still quite a few prominent conservative gays that fit the bill. Therefore saying that there are no self hating gays or that they never existed, that it was all self interest, is equally deceitful. Both to yourself and to those your are presenting your arguments to.

    Personally I think the libertarian mindset is to archaic to flourish again, there are simply too many people to “let and let live” All our resources on this planet are fairly limited and it makes little sense to ascribe to a philosophy that does not incorporate stronger ideas of inclusiveness and sharing. imho

    • Rattlesnake says:

      “such as working harder to appear straight”

      What the heck does that mean? So a homosexual male who has effeminate mannerisms, but wants to play them down, is self hating? And what about homosexual males that don’t have effeminate mannerisms, or heterosexual males with effeminate mannerisms? Are they supposed to make themselves into caricatures lest they be self hating as well (note: this question is not rhetorical, I really would like an answer as to what you think about that). And, by your logic, would white people who behave “urban” also be self-hating?

      “It’s all well and good to say that you are not in the ranks of the self hating but there are still quite a few prominent conservative gays that fit the bill.”


  4. Houndentenor says:

    I think it’s fair for people to be perplexed as to why any gay person who be a Republican.

    But Libertarians were well ahead the major parties in supporting gay rights. That “self-loathing” comment is probably not directed at you. If it is, the person who said it is simply ignorant.

    • Houndentenor says:

      BTW, should you decide to support Johnson next fall as the Libertarian candidate you can retort, “I’m voting for the only candidate who endorsed gay marriage. How about you?” That ought to shut them up.

      If you are gay and support Gingrich, Santorum, Bachmann or any of the other openly anti-gay candidates, self-hating/loathing is appropriate. Sorry, but it’s true.

      • Lori Heine says:

        I probably will support Gary Johnson in the general election. I suppose he’s actually done the most honest thing by dropping out of the GOP primary and running as a Libertarian candidate.

        Somewhere in the back of my mind, I keep the notion that I might one day join the Republican Party and help to transform it into something every right-thinking, rational American can be proud of. But I’m beginning to wonder if that’s even possible.

        I’ve had lots of debates with my fellow libertarians on this, because I keep telling them we need to change the Republican Party. Some of them insist that isn’t possible, because the Republicans are too corrupted. I’ve been saying they’re wrong, but perhaps they’re right. I actually find it easier to get through to some Democrats — even “progressives” — about libertarian principles than I do many Republicans. Only gay Republicans seem to get it, and I agree with you at least as far as to say that they must be louder about it.

    • Rattlesnake says:

      “I think it’s fair for people to be perplexed as to why any gay person who be a Republican.”

      Not if that person supports lower taxes and regulations (for example). What if that gay person owns a small business? I think it would be fair to be perplexed as to why any small business owner would be a Democrat.

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