Anti-Gay Christian (or Anti-Gay Conservative) Means Anti-Gay, Period

Enough, already, of the ignorant, bigoted lie that one must either be pro-gay or pro-Christian.  And enough of the lie that only those on the reactionary Right perpetuate it.

The Left is anti-Christian.  It has shown this again and again and again.  Oh, it will glom onto Christianity when it can, pushing its “Jesus-was-a-socialist” nonsense.  (To the degree that Jesus had anything to say about armed thugs stealing money from those who had earned it to give to those who had not, He would have called them thieves.)  But whenever it gets the chance, it will bash the Christian faith and seek to deny freedom of speech to anyone who practices it.

I refuse to have anything to do with that crowd anymore.  They don’t speak for me.  My first allegiance is to Jesus Christ.  Which means that I can have no allegiance to those who persecute His followers.  And this remains true whether I like all of them or not.  Some of them, I don’t like at all, because I don’t think they’re really following Him, but that doesn’t change the fact that I cannot — and will not — attack them for being His followers.

The Left attacks them simply because they follow Jesus.  Even because they claim to follow Him.  And “progressive” Christians who follow the Left commit disloyalty against Christ every time they follow the secular Left instead of the Gospel.

Gay Christians need to stop throwing in with a faction hostile to Christian faith.  There is no short-term political gain to be purchased by joining these people.  And the long-term loss we suffer is incalculably huge.

I know where the notion that gays and Christians were always two separate groups originally came from.  But why would gay Christians want to help perpetuate it by taking the wrong side? The battle for gay acceptance and inclusion in the Church must be fought from within the Church itself — not by mercenaries brought in from outside.  That’s exactly what the secular Leftists we bring in to fight our battles in the Church really are.

Again, today, one friend of mine was babbling about another’s being “part of the one percent” because the latter happens to be wealthy.  He’s gay, he’s a Christian — what the hell, he’s even a good “progressive” politically — but he’s wealthy.  So he’s presumed to be The Enemy.  This is ridiculous.  It’s rapidly approaching insane.

Perpetuating this rot only further convinces straight Christians that gay Christians are Leftist plants.  Those of us who oppose the secular Left’s agenda need to stand up and speak out against it.  And when secular Leftist gays hostile to Christianity abuse us for our faith — insinuating that we’re disloyal to “the community” because we’re Christians — we need to make this very clear:  Anti-gay Christian is anti-gay.  Period.

My wealthy gay Christian friend would probably be stung if he heard himself called “one of the one percent.”  He still seems to care what secular Leftists think of him.  But I don’t.  Screw those people.  We don’t have to take their abuse.  And shame on “Christians” who help to heap it on.

We need to care more about winning the hearts and minds of straight Christians, and less about hanging onto the “support” of straight secular Leftists.  The former, when they really are followers of Christ, will eventually give us a genuine welcome.  The latter will discard us as soon as we are no longer useful.

When I hear people like my “ninety-nine percent” friend, I realize — with a weary sigh — how far we have yet to go.


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13 Responses to Anti-Gay Christian (or Anti-Gay Conservative) Means Anti-Gay, Period

  1. Karen says:

    I have noticed that you have also commented on Mel Maguire’s blog. I have been trying to post comments, but ever since her post “A Million Little Grinches,” the option to submit and post my comment has ceased appearing on the comment box. I have tried emailing her about it, but I think my emails were stuck in her spam folder. I have no way of telling her this problem. Would you mind telling her about it for me? I would love to comment. If there is no way she can fix the problem on the blog, then we might be able to communicate via email.

  2. heine911 says:

    Karen, I will try. The only way I know of, however, to reach her is by logging a comment myself.

  3. Mel Maguire says:

    Hello there…BTW, I had read this post and I really liked it. Well done.

    I just checked my site and I’m not sure what’s going on. The only suggestion I can make is that your browser might not be supporting the site correctly, but that wouldn’t make much sense, either, because Lori is also on WordPress and her template isn’t terribly different from ours. I’m stumped!

  4. Karen says:

    Hi, Mel. Nothing has changed with my browser as far as I know. For some unknown reason, the option to submit a comment no longer appears, or it will be there for a few seconds and soon disappear. I still have your email address from when I was part of TNA, so I can email you Saturday afternoon with some responses. Just be sure to check your spam filter Saturday to make sure it did not get lost in there…

  5. Karen says:

    I sent the email titled “Responses,” but the sender should say the email address and not my name. I still cannot comment on GayConservative anymore. *shrug*

  6. Karen says:

    Well, apparently, you did change your email address after TNA… I don’t know what the problem is with posting on your blog as there seems to be nothing wrong with anything. Well, you have my email address because it should be in the comments I left in the past.

    heine911, I apologize for hijacking your post.

  7. Tim Mc says:

    as a gay male from a conservative christian family I used to think similarly to you. But after having several deep studies into the bible and religion in general I came to accept that accept that it was myth. After feeling pretty agnostic over the whole thing I started attending a club for atheists and free thinkers. I have never felt less worried about being openly gay, or more concrete in my faith in the goodness of humanity. I hadn’t realized how much my feelings of otherness were due to my subconscious readings of perceived intolerance that were mostly mirrors of myself and the teachings of my church.
    If you’re feeling especially strong about these feelings, you might try talking to any locale free thinker club and seeing if it is something that you are carrying for others rather than yourself. (figuratively speaking of course). My load has been considerably lightened and it is much easier to deal with the day to day with a different outlook.
    Well the best of luck in your journey. be well

  8. Lori Heine says:

    Tim Mc, I appreciate your stopping by — and I hope you like the blog well enough to visit often.

    I understand how you feel, having been brought up in a conservatively religious family. My family has always been Christian, but more liberal. I haven’t had to carry around all the baggage you probably have. Everyone in my family accepted me when I came out.

    I would only caution you to remember that people are not God (even though they sometimes act as if they think they are). Nor do they have God on the big, red bat-phone, imparting all truth to them. If they’ve condemned you, they are wrong. And there are a growing number of Christians — even straight, conservative ones — who do not condemn you, or expect you to change.

    I was able to retain my faith, and even see it grow, after I came out because I refused to accept those who claimed to speak for God as knowing God’s mind. I believe there is a God, and that “He” loves you more than you will ever know.

    Thanks again for sharing your thoughts. You are always welcome here — just as you are.

  9. Hm, I wonder if instead of all the name-calling on ALL sides wouldn’t it be better if everyone talked to and interacted with other human beings AS Just That rather than throwing labels around
    I know it happens because it’s easier to discount people on the right/left gay/straight Christian/not
    whatever–we’re herd animals and we respond and act according to in-tribe/out-tribe vibes. I used to be a Christian, but I’m not “a follower” in the usual sense any more, and I’m quite wary of the rabid ones because of what a subgroup of them did to me. OTOH I have no problem with his followers who feed the hungry and otherwise do his work. As far as politics, A*holes seem to abound wherever you look ! What wee need to encourage is human beings who stick their necks above the herd and dare to Think. For. Themselves. I think you are one. I try to be one as well.
    Happy Solstice !

  10. Lori Heine says:

    Hi Carol,

    I was glad to hear you refer to anti-gay Christians as a “subgroup,” because that’s what they are. And they’re a subgroup that keeps getting smaller all the time.

    I hope that you have a happy Solstice, and that the season is filled with friendship and good times.

  11. Houndentenor says:

    The vast majority of Democrats are Christians. This is just anti-liberal propaganda dreamed up by people like Ann Coulter. And there are actually quite a few Republicans who are Atheists (than Ayn Rand crowd, for example). Liberals don’t hate Christians. Some of us have a hard time with Fundamentalists who want to tell the rest of us how to live our personal lives. Funny how those same people keep getting caught with their pants down (in airport bathrooms, for example, or “hiking the Appalachian Trail”). Maybe they should worry more about their own morality and stop trying to legislate what the rest of us are allowed to do.

  12. Lori Heine says:

    “Maybe they should worry more about their own morality and stop trying to legislate what the rest of us are allowed to do.”

    Wholeheartedly agreed.

  13. Houndentenor says:

    Also, it would be nice to hear the liberal Christians grab the microphone away from the Pat Robertsons and Rick Santorums every once in awhile. I realize that rational, reasonable people don’t make for very exciting television, which is why they always put on the most extreme people they can find on every side of every issue, but it would be nice for the Christians who support gay rights to speak up every now and then. Like the Republicans who tell me (usually in hushed tones) that they disagree with their party on the gay bashing in the platform, they need to tell the world, not their gay “friends” how they feel. it might make a difference. (Or maybe they are lying to me. That’s always a possibility too.)

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